The Thinking Practitioner Podcast
w/ Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe
Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 65: Women Leaders in Massage Therapy (with CG Funk, Ruth Werner, and Irene Diamond)
Ep 65: Women account for about 85 percent of Massage Therapists in the US. However, there isn’t always a corresponding representation of women as CE providers, conference headliners, or in other roles of visible leadership. Whitney and Til explore this phenomenon in discussions with three women leaders.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 64: The Handspring Story (with Andrew Stevenson and Mary Law)
Ep 64: It’s no exaggeration to say that in its ten years of existence, Handspring Publishing has had a profound impact on the bodywork and movement therapy fields. Til and Whitney talk with two of Handspring’s founders about some very big recent news.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 63: Turnabout is Fair Play: Our Favorite Perspectives Reversals
Ep 63: What makes changing our views such a challenge? Whitney and Til compare notes about how their perspectives have taken a 180° from how they used to think, and, about how that’s played out.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 62: Educational Innovations (with Anne Williams and Eric Brown)
Ep 62: Whitney talks with Anne Williams and Eric Brown about innovations in education.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 61: Massage Therapy Research (with Niki Munk)
Ep 61: Whitney talks with Niki Munk about massage therapy research.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 60: Physical Therapy Assisting and Massage (with Matt Gavzy)
Ep 60: Whitney talks with massage therapist and physical therapy assistant Matt Gavzy about working with other professionals in a team practice, and about integrating massage therapy with physical therapy approaches.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 59: What Influenced You?
Ep 59: Whitney and Til compare notes about some of the major influences on their own careers.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 58: Outside the Box (with Judith Aston)
Ep 58: Til Luchau asks pioneering movement and bodywork teacher Judith Aston “Do you think being a woman ever held you back?”
Then, they talk about what she thought of that question.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 57: A Fine Irish Visit (with Aubrey Gowing)
Ep 57: Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau catch up with Aubrey Gowing about the practice of massage and bodywork in Ireland. Aubrey is Senior Instructor at the Holistic College Dublin and past President of the Irish Massage Therapists Association.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 56: Working with Rib Issues
56. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe talk through their hands-on approaches to rib pain, ribcage restrictions, and related breathing issues. Includes a technique handout.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 55: What is Success? (with Diane Matkowski)
55: Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe get personal with Diane Matkowski (The Massage Mentor) about what “success” means to each of them.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 54: Season Two Highlights – Best of The Thinking Practitioner Podcast
54: Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau review highlights and key take-aways from their busy second season of interviews, conversations, and inquiries into the thinking behind effective hands-on work.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 53: Fascia: A Deep Dive (with Dr. Antonio Stecco)
53: Til and Whitney speak with fascial researcher, anatomist, and manual therapy teacher Antonio Stecco MD PhD about his research in to fascial properties, pain, and the effects of hands-on work.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 52: Orthopedic Special Tests (with Whitney Lowe)
52: Til interviews Whitney about his use of Orthopedic Special Tests.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 51: Neuroinflammation (with Todd Hargrove)
51: Til & Whitney talk with Todd Hargrove of the Better Movement blog and podcast about neuroinflammation and its role in pain and health.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 50: A View Across The Border (with Jamie Johnston & Eric Purves)
50: Whitney interviews Jamie Johnston and Eric Purves about how massage education differs in the U.S. and Canada; and more.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 49: Interoception is the Key, Like It Or Not
49: Whitney interviews Til about his upcoming “Three Questions About Interoception” article in Massage & Bodywork magazine.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 47: Getting Over Over-Pronation (Ankle & Foot Function)
47: Til and Whitney geek-out on conditions, anatomy, function, and biomechanics of the ankle and foot.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 48: Psoas Work: Is it Safe? Is it Necessary? (Rebroadcast)
48: In this “Greatest Hits” rebroadcast of episode 25, Whitney and Til discuss the controversies, disagreements, considerations, and their own views on the infamous psoas muscle in manual therapy and massage. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests, and a special chapter from Til’s book from http://a-t.tv/ttp-psoas/
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 46: To ITB, or Not To ITB? (Iliotibial Band Controversies, Conditions, and Approaches)
46: Whitney and Til unfold the controversies, compare thoughts, and share approaches for working with the iliotibial band.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 45: Fascia in Sport & Movement (with Robert Schleip)
45: Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe talk with researcher and Robert Schleip about fascia, movement, and research updates in the newly released second edition of Fascia in Sport and Movement, co-edited by Jan Wilke.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 44: Table Lessons (with Doug Nelson)
44: Whitney talks to Doug Nelson about the challenges and learning experiences of a great massage career spanning over four decades.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 43: Trauma, MDMA Psychotherapy, and the Body (with Marcela Ot’alora G.)
43: Til Luchau talks about trauma, psychedelic psychotherapy, and the body, with Marcela Ot’alora G., the principal investigator in a very promising FDA-approved study into MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 42: Scars and Scar Tissue (with Cathy Ryan)
42: Til and Whitney talk to Cathy Ryan RMT about her book ‘Traumatic Scar Tissue Management: Massage Therapy Principles, Practice and Protocols,’ co-authored with Nancy Keenan Smith.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 41: Going For It: The Massage Mentor (with Diane Matkowski)
41: Going For It: The Massage Mentor (with Diane Matkowski). Whitney and Til talk to Diane Matkowski (a.k.a. the Massage Mentor) to find out what gave her the chutzpah to ask 10 of her favorite massage and bodywork teachers to teach in her first online event, and then, what it was like when 600 people showed up.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 40: How to (Not) Fix It (with Cal Cates)
40. How to (Not) Fix It (with Cal Cates): Til and Whitney talk to Healwell’s Cal Cates about how their work with death and dying brought perspective and presence to their work as a massage therapist; and to living itself.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 39: Ruth Werner: Are You Thinking Critically?
39: How often do we think about the assumptions that inform our decisions? Til Luchau talks to writer Ruth Werner about her recent work on critical thinking skills, steps, and stages.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 38: Frozen Shoulder & Adhesive Capsulitis: Updating our Approach
38: Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau give a crash course on frozen shoulder/adhesive capsulitis, discussing recent research findings and comparing their respective views and strategies. Download the free handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests, and join them at the upcoming Shoulder Jam event via Whitney or Til’s sign-up link.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 37: Shoulder Pain, Impingement, & Rotator Cuff Issues: The Most Common of Problems
37: Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe share their ideas, strategies, techniques, and tests for better results with the most common type of shoulder condition, subacromial pain syndrome (SAPS) and its myriad presentations, including rotator cuff pain, etc. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests from http://a-t.tv/ttp-saps/
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 36: Research and Education with Robin Anderson
36: Whitney Lowe talks with Robin Anderson about her new role as president of the Massage Therapy Foundation and how research plays an important role in our field. They also dive deep into some issues around curriculum design and the crucial importance of developing solid educational programs to ensure the future success of our field.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 35: Resources that Inspire Our Learning
35: Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe share their top resources for information and inspiration, both professionally and personally, letting us in on everything from their favorite podcasts, playlists, books, and apps, to how they recharge and find meaning in their work and in their lives.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 34: Thoracic Outlet Syndrome: What You Didn’t Know
34: Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau share trivia, tips, tests, and techniques for working with thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS), including some cool self-care methods for you and your clients. Find out why TOS is “one of the most controversial topics in musculoskeletal medicine,” and how Til and Whitney actually work with TOS symptoms in practice.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 33: Drew Freedman: Dealing With Adversity
33: Dealing With Adversity (with Drew Freedman) Clinician and educator Drew Freedman talks about navigating many challenges of managing a busy clinic in the heart of Boston. The clinic was severely impacted by the Boston Marathon bombing and then again this past year during the Covid challenge. We discuss how to face adversity and how to continue looking forward and not let these challenges drag you down.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 32: Art Riggs: Aging Well
32: Bodywork pioneer Art Riggs was one of the first Certified Rolfers to publish a book about “advanced” techniques. His textbook (Deep Tissue Massage) was adopted by massage therapy programs worldwide, and as a result, his teaching and style has influenced tens of thousands massage and manual therapists in the decades since. Art talks with Til Luchau about his work, aging, self-care, and more.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 31: Cervicogenic Headaches: As If We Need Another Type
31: What are cervicogenic headaches? Are they even a thing, and if so, why are they particularly amenable to manual therapy and massage? Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe discuss these questions, and share some self-care tips for you and your clients. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests from http://a-t.tv/ttp-cgh/
Episode topics include:
– What kinds of headaches CAN manual therapy help with?
– What’s the controversy around cervicogenic headaches?
– What kinds of self-care help?
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 30: Excuses, Excuses: Our Favorite Reasons Not To ________
30: What makes taking care of ourselves so hard? Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe dissect the difficulties, and share their favorite excuses for not putting their own care first.
Episode topics include:
– The five key self-care behaviors;
– The date we’re most likely to give up on our resolutions;
– Getting “internal bipartisanship” around your own self-care initiatives.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 29: First Season Retrospective – Best of the Thinking Practitioner
29: Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe review highlights and take-aways from the star-studded first season of their acclaimed podcast (yea, right).
Episode topics include:
– Most-Downloaded
– First Season, by Episode
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 28: Advanced Credentialing and Massage as Healthcare
28: Whitney Lowe talks with Cal Cates, executive director of Healwell. They tackle the challenging issues of how to recognize advanced training and the challenges of integrating massage into the healthcare system.
Episode topics include:
– Why is advanced credentialing important for us?
– What are some of the big challenges we face when attempting to be part of the healthcare system?
– Who is ultimately responsible for advanced credentialing?
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 27: The Little Man In Your Brain: The Sensory Homunculus
27: Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe discuss the most famous (yet, unreplicated) illustration in neuroscience, the sensorimotor homunculus, which purports to show the proportion of the brain dedicated to each body part. Is it accurate?
Episode topics include:
– Is the cortical homunculus a map, or the territory?
– How did it come about? Penfield’s methods and limitations.
– How might this all apply to manual therapy and massage?
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 26: Movement for Manual Therapists, with Wojtek Cackowski
26: Til Luchau talks with Polish physical therapist, Anatomy Trains teacher, and manual therapist Wojtek Cackowski about his innovative Zoga Movement method, and how it can help manual therapists not only with their clients, but with their own embodiment and self care.
Episode topics include:
– Fascial shearing and gliding, vs fascial “stretching”
– What is Zoga? How does it relate to manual therapy and massage?
– Til and Wojtek’s collaborative online courses combining Zoga and Advanced Myofascial Techniques
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 25: Psoas Work: Is it Safe? Is it Necessary?
25: Whitney and Til discuss the controversies, disagreements, considerations, and their own views on the infamous psoas muscle in manual therapy and massage. Download the handout with detailed episode notes, techniques and tests, and a special chapter from Til’s book from http://a-t.tv/ttp-psoas/
Episode topics include:
– Psoas: Holy Grail muscle, or wholly irrelevant?
– Psoas and back pain, leg length, etc.;
– Safety considerations;
– What Til and Whitney actually do in practice.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 24: Plantar Foot Pain Crash Course
24: Whitney and Til share a treasure chest of foot-pain ideas and techniques, packed full of assessments, anatomy, concepts, and hands-on tools. Download the free (optional) handout and follow along as Til and Whitney give an audio preview of their upcoming Plantar Foot Pain collaborative webinar (part of the ABMP CE Summit).
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 23: Do Expectations Shape Results? Mark Bishop
23. Mark Bishop’s research shows that clients who think treatment will help benefit more than those who don’t expect much relief. What is more, practitioners who expect their modality will help actually get better results than practitioners who are less certain. What’s up with that?
In this episode, Til and Whitney interview manual therapist, physiotherapist and researcher Mark Bishop about his fascinating investigations into how expectations can shape results; the role of client preferences in treatment success; and how practitioners can most effectively leverage these effects.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 22: Gil Hedley: Fascia, Fuzz and Furor
22. Anatomist Gil Hedley discusses fascial debacles, debates, and dissection with Til Luchau.
In this episode,
– Gil Hedley’s Fuzz Speech: facts, fantasies, and furor
– Sexuality in the dissection room.
– Conspiracies: pattern of meaning, or menace?
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 21: My Aching (Upper) Back: Thoracic Spine Pain
21: Whitney and Til discuss a very common (but poorly researched) complaint: upper thoracic spine pain, and what to do about it.
In this episode,
– Does posture drive upper back pain? Does psychology?
– Breaking the Upper-Cross-Syndrome rules (and what “PhD” doesn’t really stand for).
– The Over-the-Edge technique for upper back pain.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 20: A Pain in the Neck: Cervical Challenges and Strategies
20: Whitney and Til discuss assessment and treatment considerations unique to working with the neck and cervical region; how their respective training programs are adapting to the challenges of COVID-19; and much more.
In this episode,
– Neck issues: shifting from tissue fault to nociceptive driver
– Can we treat the neck in isolation?
– Thoughts on “text neck,” and more.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 19: What About Risk?
19: How do we manage risk, in a world where we don’t even agree about what the risks are? Pathology writer Ruth Werner joins Til and Whitney for a lively conversation about risk, risk tolerance, and ethical decision making in massage and manual therapy, in the face of both COVID-19, and in the differences in how we perceive the risks involved.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 18: Ann Blair Kennedy and Kemi Balogun: Project COPE
18: Project COPE is tracking the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on both essential and “non-essential” healthcare practitioners, including massage therapists and bodyworkers. It’s already revealing some insights about representation and diversity in our field. Listen to learn more, and participate in the project.
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 17: Who Charts Our Path?
17: Manual therapy and massage practitioners are voracious consumers of professional continuing education. Who should be deciding what they learn?
In this episode,
– What implications does the “medically necessary” discussion have on massage and bodywork education, CE, and credentialing?
– Why don’t Rolfers™ think they’re doing massage, anway?
– What is the post-COVID roadmap for professional continuing education?
Thinking Practitioner Podcast, Ep 16: Benny Vaughn: Black Lives Matter.
16: Benny Vaughn, an iconic figure in massage therapy, talks with Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau about his experiences as a African American massage therapist, and offers both practical advice and deep inspiration on how manual therapists can address racism and bias in their own lives.
